如得其情,則哀矜而勿喜, makuranososhi
一口氣看完張愛玲的《小團圓》,張曾經致讀者的一句話浮上心頭:
「不記得是不是《論語》上有這樣兩句話:『如得其情,哀矜而勿喜。』這兩句話給我的印像很深刻。我們明白了一件事的內情,與一個人內心的曲折,我們也都『哀矜而勿喜』吧。」(《傳奇》序)
書寫是對自己與惶惶生命的審視,其中或得到淨化,或得到救贖。至於讀的人能讀出多少知心,那是各人造化。
如得其情,則哀矜而勿喜, makuranososhi
一口氣看完張愛玲的《小團圓》,張曾經致讀者的一句話浮上心頭:
「不記得是不是《論語》上有這樣兩句話:『如得其情,哀矜而勿喜。』這兩句話給我的印像很深刻。我們明白了一件事的內情,與一個人內心的曲折,我們也都『哀矜而勿喜』吧。」(《傳奇》序)
書寫是對自己與惶惶生命的審視,其中或得到淨化,或得到救贖。至於讀的人能讀出多少知心,那是各人造化。
http://oblivion1938.com/archives/367
我沒有鏡,朋友是鏡,如果我温柔地笑,因為有人跟我温柔地笑。
今天看到這篇東西:
張小虹:「合法盜版」張愛玲 從此永不團圓小說是否完成,寫得好不好,看一看就知道了。宋以朗的前言寫什麼,張小虹教授也似乎完全沒有理會。拒讀,卻一味憑二三手資料評論,這就是學術?就是道義?
【聯合報╱張小虹】
2009.02.27
或許我們只聽說過「非法盜版」這個辭彙,難道也有所謂「合法盜版」這檔事嗎?
這幾年來張愛玲的盜版官司打得如火如荼。作為張愛玲「遺產執行人」的宋以朗與擁有張愛玲全球獨家中文版權的皇冠出版社,跨海控告中國大陸數十家知名或不知名出版社的「非法盜版」行徑,未經授權,擅自印行張愛玲的著作,並要求鉅額賠款。這場官司有的已經勝訴,有的還在纏訟,倒是在侵權官司的訴訟過程中,我們才由雙方的攻防辯論,間接了解到張愛玲遺囑未經公證(辯方企圖以此質疑遺囑之合法性),乃是因為她當時的財產不足兩萬美金,無需公證(控方證詞),如果屬實,不難想見其晚年生活之困窘。
囑交代銷毀《小團圓》手稿
那張愛玲過世後,其版權收益與各種衍生權益金究竟所歸何處?張愛玲在一九九二年所立的遺囑中,將財產遺贈給宋淇與鄺文美夫婦。此二人乃張一生的摯友,張與鄺曾為香港美國新聞處的同事,由此認識宋而成為至交,移居美國後也與二人時時魚雁往返,就連想要做件旗袍,也會手繪款式、標明尺寸,寄給鄺代為找尋香港的熟識裁縫縫製,而宋日後更成為張的對外連絡管道、文學顧問與經紀人,他為張的小說、劇本、稿費版稅與電影版權來回奔波、不辭辛勞,他認認真真拜讀、誠誠懇懇回應張寄來的所有手稿,而二○○七年底宋過世後,其子宋以朗便成為法律上合法的「張愛玲文學遺產執行人」。
而張愛玲與台灣皇冠出版社平鑫濤先生的因緣,也來自宋的引薦,張遂於一九六六年的《怨女》起與皇冠出版社維持了卅年的出版合作關係。而張愛玲過世後,皇冠出版社已於二○○四年出版了其生前因覺「毛病很大」而決定擱開的兩萬字未完成中篇小說《同學少年都不賤》(加上數篇譯作與散文),而去年皇冠出版社又出版了張愛玲數篇未發表或新出土的文稿合集《重訪邊城》,據報載此乃張愛玲作品付梓的最後一冊,其餘遺稿不再出版。在過去的四十多年中,張愛玲作為華文世界最重要的作家之一,已為該出版社帶來了無價的聲譽與象徵資本。但在今年皇冠五十五週年的慶祝活動中,我們傻了眼,就連張愛玲在叮囑遺產處理的書信中清楚交代銷毀手稿、不予出版的《小團圓》,也終究難逃被迫登台亮相的命運。
法律上「法」道義上「版」
而檯面上冠冕堂皇的出版理由有二。一說張愛玲終究還是打算出版,銷毀《小團圓》手稿的書信寫於一九九二年,而張在一九九三、一九九四仍討論到修改內容,也曾一度表示(或委婉拒絕)《小團圓》與《對照記》放在一起太厚,不宜合集出版。另一說則是此「神祕自傳體小說」乃張愛玲濃縮畢生心血的巔峰之作,出版《小團圓》乃是因應廣大張迷之期待,千呼萬喚始出來,更引用號稱或自稱張愛玲研究權威學者的話語,此書之出版乃「張迷之福音」。換言之,不為錢、不為利、不為名,《小團圓》的出版,一切都只為張愛玲與張迷。張愛玲一九九五年過世時,在公寓裡幾天沒人發現,當然也不會有人來得及問她《小團圓》改好了沒?決定要出、不出還是仍在猶豫?更進一步想,若以寫作者將心比心,就算張愛玲生前不完全放棄出版的念頭,想她也不會願意以修改中的「未完成」稿出版。但這一切的一切,我們無從猜測揣摩,我們唯一的共同根據是她的遺願,《小團圓》「小說手稿應該銷毀,不予出版」。
因此《小團圓》的出版,在法律程序上是「合法」,但在情感道義上是「盜版」,和那些被控「非法盜版」的大陸出版社一樣,都是未經授權、擅自印行。作為一個張愛玲的忠實讀者,在傷心難過與憤怒之餘,也只能以「拒買、拒讀、拒評」《小團圓》,聊表對張愛玲寫作生涯最基本的敬意。(作者為台大外文系教授)
* Am I A 50 Cent Gang Member? (07/16/2008)
This comment is made out of sheer laziness to do long translations after a tiring trip to the USA last week. So this is a departure from norm, but perhaps more stimulating (and also ill-considered).
The initial question is: Is the ESWN blogger a 50 cent gang member? Well, why would you take my YES or NO answer as truth? Tautologically, this is unprovable (that is to say, a 50 cent gang member will deny being such in order to remain effective and that kind of response is indistinguishable from those people who are genuinely not).
But let me make the argument purely from the economic angle. First, it is public information that my official job title is the Chief Technical Officer of the second largest media research organization in the world. As such, I am earning a certain wage, which is neither exceptionally low nor high.
If you offer me 50 cents per blog post, would I be doing what I am doing? NO. YOU MUST BE F*CKING JOKING!
If you offer me 5 RMB per blog post, would I be doing what I am doing? NO. YOU MUST BE F*CKING JOKING!
If you offer me 50 RMB per blog post, would I be doing what I am doing? NO. YOU MUST BE F*CKING JOKING!
If you offer me 500 RMB per blog post, would I be doing what I am doing? NO. YOU MUST BE F*CKING JOKING! I run 3 posts per day on the average, and therefore you are paying me 1,500 RMB per day (or 45,000 RMB per month). With due respect, my regular day job pays much more than that. This is just not worth the hassle.
If you offer me 5,000 RMB per blog post, would I be doing what I am doing? Well, you are the one who needs your F*CKING HEAD examined. I run 3 posts per day on the average, and therefore you are paying me 15,000 RMB per day (or 450,000 RMB per month). This may be in the same order of magnitude as my day wages, but there is no way that what I do here is worth that much money. Your supervisor would have a SH*T FIT if he finds out that is how you are squandering money on me. You cannot squeeze more productivity out of me, because my effectiveness would decline in direct proportion to the display of partisanship. Most people who hurl insults at me do not understand this simple piece of economics.
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Dear Good Old Professor,
The primary purpose of this research is to establish the viability, and to attempt to show the fruitfulness, of understanding the text of the Zhuangzi, the seven inner chapters in particular, in light of the reported experience of meditative practice as taught in the Buddhist tradition. I also try to see what implications and conclusions can be drawn from such study in connection to some related issues in the metaphysics of human nature and the philosophy of consciousness.
Eske Mllgaard wrote at the beginning of his journal article, dated 2005, stating that "In the post-metaphysical climate of the modern Western academy, Chinese thought is often seen as a happy pragmatism free from transcendental pretense." Having said that, he went on to give his analysis of what he saw as "Zhuangzi's notion of transcendental life." In this age a philosopher writing from the metaphysical angle seem to be acutely aware of the hesitant, if not necessarily antagonistic, reception of his peer audience. Nevertheless, this less than favorable reception does not stop the more metaphysically-minded authors from saying what they perceive in the ancient Chinese text. In 2008, there saw the publication of another article written in similar vein, by Chris Fraser, discussing the "Psychological Emptiness in the Zhuangzi."
I have a few points to make by way of mentioning Mllgaard and Fraser. First, I make clear that my interest in the Zhuangzi is metaphysics. Second, the metaphysical angle, while possibly unfashionable, is not necessarily implausible. These two forerunners have made their arguments, and have done so in the near past of recent years. I take it to mean that the burgeoning western interest in Chinese philosophy is still willing enough to hear the metaphysical case. Third, while these recent efforts will give support to my undertaking, they also raise the demanding question as to how my research can further the understanding of the Zhuangzi and improve on what the forerunners have achieved.
It is the hope of this proposal to improve on Zhuangzi scholarship by introducing the study of mindfulness. At least three times the practice of meditation is mentioned in the inner chapters of the Zhuangzi. I would argue in my research that these mentionings are strategically significant in terms of both literary presentation and theoretical understanding. In other words, Zhuangzi the author - suspending for the moment the question of authorship - is not simply making use of meditation as a prop-like device to produce a make-believe drama in which a sage is apt to spout mystical claims, after stereotypically emerging from his daily spiritual practice. It is not just the same old writing technique with which an author creates the sage image in order to add weight to his own messages. Rather, I believe that Zhuangzi's metaphysical messages are deeply rooted in his own meditative experience. I do not harbor the fancy that the archaeological circle will some day supply evidences as solid, or tenous, as Zhuangzi's precious meditation cushion. Instead, I will take the indirect way - some would see it as more direct - of showing how meditation, when properly understood and correctly practiced, can lead to experience that has resonance with the messages contained in the Zhuangzi, in particular the seven inner chapters.
Bringing in the notion of mindfulness will have certain implications on the way we read the Zhuangzi. First and foremost, we bring back the element of experience to the work, referring in particular to that of the metaphysicians. From my reading of Mllgaard and Fraser, their work primarily consists in conceptual analysis and linguistic interpretation (of the dictionary kind). It is certainly true that conceptual analysis and linguistic interpretation is an indispensible part of philosophizing. But these two favorite devices, as it is, are limited to the application to a given text. This leads me to wonder if Zhuangzi had produced his own text by way of reading another earlier text, which were in turn produced by similar work on a still earlier text, ad infinitum. Leaving that aside as a mere possibility, I deem it more probable that Zhuangzi has come up with his text by way of reflecting over his own experience, that the concepts and words making up the text are results of his effort at faithfully reporting his own experience. Readers of the Zhuangzi should be much better poised for the task of understanding when they also engage themselves in similar self-investigation, just as the best way of reading Berkeley is to engage in the characteristically idealistic musing.
Doubtless the most effective way of understanding Zhuangzi is to walk the way Zhuangzi himself has walked. However, it does not mean exactly that the best interpreters of the Zhuangzi are necessarily themselves dedicated and successful meditators. Philosophizing, as long as it is primarily an act of communicative understanding, must center itself around the work of analysis. Those whose conditions do not favor their taking up the perceivedly onerous practice of meditation can in fact borrow insights from those diligent mindfulness practitioners, say, from the Buddhist tradition, who have produced some excellent meditation treatises, sometimes with rigor admirable even from the standard of modern scholarship.
I am of the opinion that a substantial part of the inner chapters is really a report of meditative experience, as accurate as it is beautiful. The reason that the Zhuangzi report does not lend itself to a straight forward and simple reading is that the author was writing with a style that was, while distinguishingly imaginative, suitable to his own cultural and literary milieu. While the intent is expositional, his style is decidedly literary, because it is the Chinese ancient custom to see composition as the proper ornament of an educated person, in addition to being a mere act of communication. And even more specific to the Chinese culture, Zhuangzi's masterful wordplay is a corollary of a genius writing at a time when the word processor has yet to be invented. (As it is well-known, the Chinese words, with their hieroglyphical strokes, are not easy to put together, and therefore ancient Chinese writers are usually great economists of words.) Though not as laconic as the Dao De Jing, and even as wordy as to come up with a series of seven chapters, his pen is actually terse. He does not feel the academic need to explain how a particular keyword is being used, which would only spoil the amusing literary beauty that is more valuable as he sees it. And yet his word usage is not governed by the authority of a commonly accepted dictionary. He is freely using his words to mean things as a magician-metaphorist sees fit. The result of all these factors is that Zhuangzi's report and profound reflection of the enigmatic experience of meditation is at the same time a rare gem of poetic art in Chinese literature. Though definitely accurate and full of insights, it does not readily lend itself to the modern reader's conceptual and linguistic analysis, particularly when he has never imagined that Zhuangzi the literary author is not only a philosopher, but also a meditator.
Having said thus, the basic method of this proposed research is still the essential tools of analysis and interpretation. The major break from the current way of doing things is that it takes the texts of meditation treatises as a more reasonable source of meaning. We put the texts of the Zhuangzi and meditation treatises side by side, and try to see how the words and concepts and passages from the former can be construed as to mean the pointers laid out and the experiences detailed in the latter. This juxtaposing interpretation is still philosophical analysis, but this analysis has its firm foothold in human experience, which is, at the end of the day, the ultimate source of human knowledge regarding the matter in question.
This research will take meditation texts from the Buddhist tradition. The similarity, or dissimilarity, between Buddhist metaphysics and that perceived in the Zhuangzi has long been a subject of comment in traditional Chinese scholarship. Two merits are seen in this choice. First, as already mentioned, some modern-day Buddhist meditators have handed down their practical experience in a prose language that is suitable to contemporary academic readers. In line with western pedagogism, these magnanimous souls not only lay bare their repertoire, they also thoroughly discourse upon the rationale behind and intended effects of their skills. The conceptual clarity of their writings will greatly facilitate the surgical work of connecting the meditative experience to the text of the Zhuangzi. Second, while it is certainly a curious question as to why, if the inner chapters are really some kind of a holy text of meditative experience, a religious lineage of meditation has not been identified as starting directly from Zhuangzi the suspected mystic, the Indian tradition from the adjacent subcontinent has since the early days of the preaching career of the Buddha made clear that meditative experience is the essence of the religion. The religiosity of Buddhism almost ensures that the dedicated spearhead of its followers are in possession of the definitive understanding of Buddhist mysticism. Which is to say, not that in the face of religious passion we can safely relax into credulity, but that we have a better chance of coming upon the truth when these treatise writers are both competent and dedicated.
Buddhism is one of the most formidable players and among the earliest of pioneers in the history of metaphysical inquiry. With the passage of time, the proponents of Buddhism have developed their philosophy and their way of doing it into a fashion that can hardly be recognized as the same as that which can be found in the Zhuangzi. However, I venture to claim that if one would go back to the very source of these disparate discourses, that is our common humanity as revealed in meditative practice, one might find good reasons to say that both brands of metaphysics are saying essentially the same thing. This is a higher ambition that the proposed research will also attempt to achieve. If the relevant part of the Zhuangzi inner chapters can be construed by way of conceptual analysis as to express the Buddhist experience of meditation, then the religious teachings on the nature of Buddhahood that are the guiding spirit of such practice must be somehow correlated with Zhuangzi's metaphysical claims. The second major part of the research will be to develop a theoretical construct that can simultaneously capture the core insights from both brands of thoughts.
In the third part of the research, I will try to bring the construct into dialogue with contemporary philosophy. I look forward to this research as a valuable opportunity to enrich my understanding of contemporary metaphysical theories and the different ways of philosophizing on the human consciousness. This is the part I feel most excited about because I think this is the kind of work that will bring me closer to the heart of philosophizing. I have in mind two major questions. First, from the best of my understanding, Zhuangzi, in resonance with the Buddha, sees the human essence not in the human senses. He would, as I see it, quite probably concur with the Buddha that we are essentially our self-awareness. This stance however is diametrically different from some breed of metaphysics, a pretty dominant way of thinking in the modern day, that says we humans are nothing but our senses. How would I moderate and decide the debate between them?
The second question intrigues me the most. Again from my understanding, the notions of awareness and identification are twin concepts, like the opposite sides of the same coin, like the symbiosis of day and night. The dark night of identification must recede when the sun of awareness shines in the sky. However, as I see it, just as the notion of awareness has but a marginal place in respectable philosophical discourse, the function of identification, its twin brother, is largely ignored if not altogether unknown in the world of philosophy. What could that mean? Looking outward and around, however, we see that identification is a basic principle underlying, though less than consciously, a substantial part of social science researches. In psychology, we see its fruitful application to the study of personalities. In sociology, we have the study of genders, where the postmodernists are quick in spotting dominant discourses and subject positions. Even in the study of social classes, we see that if the group of people sharing a batch of related socio-economic attributes identify with the symbols that have come to represent the group, the group is more likely to bring class actions to the political arena. The same principle applies to the study of nationalism. And, to complete the story, if globalization is inevitable, the best we can do is to give ourselves a very successful globalization. Some school holds that the key to success is the installment of some effective world institution, whether in the form of a full-fledged organization or a minimalistic protocol of acceptable international and national (if that is at all imaginable) conducts. In this case, I would argue that the success of such institution in turn depends on whether a transnational identity is forthcoming. Anything less than a globally concerted effort at building a world institution to rule out evil enemies will be equivalent to laying the groundwork for the seedbed of terrorism.
Just as eyesight, among other senses, is at the root of human experience, identification is the basis of civilization. If I am not mistaken, what I call the function of identification is named klistamanas in the Yogacara school of Buddhism, otherwise known as the seventh consciousness. The Yogacara school comprehends the human psyche as a composite of eight parts or layers of consciousness. In addition to the five well-known parts that correspond to our bodily senses, there are the sixth consciousness of ideation, that is our versatile monkey mind, and the eighth consciousness, which, while commonly understood as the store consciousness, I also take to be the seat of our self-awareness. This picture, and its defense, is to be the best gift that philosophical Buddhism can bring to this age. In connection with my first question, we must ask ourselves, should we include the functions of identification and self-awareness in our understanding of ourselves? Quite simply I think, if we choose to exclude them, we must by the demand of integrity also wipe out our civilization and our will and ability to be better than we are.
To conclude my proposal, let me draw a parallel lesson from the general history of human medicine, by way of quoting the thought exchanges I recently had with a newly-made skeptic friend. I told him that the break in the push for evidence for meridians finally came in 1998 in the form of a medical paper titled "Experimental exploration and research propect of physical bases and functional characteristics of meridians." The research was done by a project team, headed by Prof. Fei Lun from Fudan University. The paper abstract highlights that "Elements of Ca, P, K, Fe, Zn, Mn, etc are found concentrated in the deep connective tissue structures in locations corresponding to acupoints." Making my comments, I say,
"I am not sure if the evidence is clinchingly established, or not. But it is a good story illustrating at least the desparate urge of rescuing some perceived good thing. Here I am not exactly interested in the evidence status of meridians. What I am interested in is, what should be the proper mentality in regarding some potentially important thing, such as meridians, before clinched evidence is obtained? Certainly the attitude of belief before evidence can be problematic. But the lack of evidence should not be taken as equivalent to a stop sign for exploration. Too obvious to be necessary for mentioning. So the mentioning on my part only shows how worried I am."
In reply, my friend says,
"I know the effect of meridians. My wife actually studies Chinese medicine with a practicing Chinese med doctor. And I've seen them done some real magic with some friends. I'm talking about people who can't move their arm, and after some stroking of the meridian points, they can move again. If you don't know what it is, it's real magic. However, my take on this is that before there is real science-based evidence and theory and experiments, it's basically magic. Now, I don't mean to put magic in the negative light here. But we look to science on solving problems only because they give us comfort in knowing why certain things happen within certain assumption and can be repeated..."
Anyone who has ever found and faced off with the gorgon of identification does not doubt the magic of awareness. In the above exchange, what comes to the surface is, of course, the keyword evidence. Where on earth or in the body can I find evidence for the twin phenomena of identification and awareness? Or more to the point, what is to be counted as evidence in these matters? No, I don't believe I can find evidence in the Zhuangzi. But I do believe if we can understand the text better, we stand a better chance of understanding ourselves.
Drob, Sanford L. _Kabbalistic Metaphors: Jewish Mystical Themes in Ancient and Modern Thought_ Jason Aronson Inc. 1989.
p.142
“It is known that all the descents are for the purpose of ascent. For His main intention, blessed be He, is to have his Blessed divinity be revealed precisely through inversion, in darkness, and in concealment. This is also in order to coerce the sitra achra [the realm of evil] and transform darkness into light … and it is precisely in the revelation of evil that His blessed will be revealed.” (From Rabbi Aharon Halevi Horowitz of Staroselye (Shklove 182), as quoted in Elior, _The Paradoxical Ascent to God, pp.206-7)
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“His disciples said, “Show us the place where you are, for we must seek it.”
He said to them, “Anyone here with two ears had better listen! There is light within a person of light, and it shines on the whole world. If it does not shine, it is dark.”
Jesus said, “Love your friends like your own soul, protect them like the pupil of your eye.” (The Gospel of Thomas, Sayings 24-25)
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“And Jesus answered him: The first commandment of all is, Hear, O Israel: the Lord thy God is one God. And thou shalt love the Lord thy God, with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind, and with thy whole strength. This is the first commandment. And the second is like to it: Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is no other commandment greater than these.” (The Gospel of Mark, 12:29-31)
p.144
“[T]he World of Emanation is not a world in the sense that the other three are: in a certain sense it is the Godhead itself… As one descends in the system of worlds, there is more and more matter. Another way of stating this is that the beings of the lower worlds have a greater awareness of their independent, progressively separate selves, of their private “I.” This consciousness of self obscures the divine light, and dims the true, unchanging “I” that exists within each individual being…” (qtd. Adin Steinsaltz, _The Strife of the Spirit_, 1988)
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“Jesus saw some babies nursing. He said to his disciples, “These nursing babies are like those who enter the (Father's) kingdom.”
They said to him, “Then shall we enter the (Father's) kingdom as babies?”
Jesus said to them, “When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom].” (The Gospel of Thomas, Saying 22)
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“Jesus said, “I am the light that is over all things. I am all: from me all came forth, and to me all attained.
Split a piece of wood; I am there.
Lift up the stone, and you will find me there.” (The Gospel of Thomas, Saying 77)
your pet word of the unconscious has lately intrigued me enough that i decided to start looking into it.
since you often mention jung and just very occasionally if at all mention freud, i judge that when you say just the unconscious, you are actually thinking of the collective unconscious in specific. why i have to clarify is that you are also very much interested in the unconscious, per se, like when you talk freely about the tarot and various experiments of psychological suggestion. i wonder if you tend to think that the unconscious and the collective unconscious are so much so closely related as to you can use those two terms interchangeably without the need of maintaining some discrimination.
the first shock i encounter in initial exploration of the jungian concept is that, i am told, from still limited reading, the concept of archetypes is an integral part of it. the precise reason why i am shocked is that you actually seldom, if not none at all, bring up the topic of archetype. that's why i put the question to you last night. i just did a bit of further research into the idea. let me share my findings with you.
The contents of the collective unconscious…are known as archetypes (CW9(1):4).
http://aras.org/whatarearchetypes.aspx
from my grasp of your answer last night, i feel that you decided that the concept of archetype has quite a marginal place in jung's theory. but this positioning of the concept is blatantly contradicting jung's own judgment, in his own words as above quoted. what does it mean? possibly jung himself has disowned his earlier judgment when he has come up with a more mature version of the theory. is this the case, supposing you have a very solid understanding of jung?
i don't know for sure yet. but i can tell you last night when you used the collective unconscious theory to shed light on the HKSAR's annual temple lucky draw, i have had my most profound theoretical disorientation. i am feeling that if your way of using the collective unconscious theory is right, then archetypes have absolutely no place in any discussion involving the theory. such conclusion, however, is very unhappy, as it leads to an elimination of a very promising area of study.
from the not too reliable wikipedia:
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Jung outlined five main archetypes:
* The Self, the regulating center of the psyche and facilitator of individuation
* The Shadow, the opposite of the ego image, often containing qualities that the ego does not identify with but possesses nonetheless
* The Anima, the feminine image in a man's psyche; or:
* The Animus, the masculine image in a woman's psyche
* The Persona, how we present to the world, usually protects the Ego from negative images(acts like a mask)
Although the number of archetypes is limitless, there are a few particularly notable, recurring archetypal images:
* The Child
* The Hero
* The Great Mother
* The Wise old man
* The Trickster or Fox
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true that the number of archetypes is limitless, which means that the list is open to any reasonably interesting new candidates. but what counts as an archetype? obvious enough by way of a glance over the list, an archetype is a role, a role by which we persons experience ourselves in this world as in a story. i think this way of understanding ourselves is very illuminating. say we might think of ourselves as some kind of a hero working his way towards some sublime achievement, and just as the task is profound and difficult, his hope of receiving help from some wise old men is high and desperate. this archetype of the hero virtually dictates the total behavior of a person wearing the mask of the hero. so, in this way, the study of this archetype is a study of such a person. moreover, the notion of collective is true enough, since the idea of a hero is a cultural heritage each and everyone of us has access to, if only he is interested enough.
in contrast, when you explained the lucky draw, i didn't feel that you have made use of similar concepts, or maybe you have actually used it already, so fast that my head was left spinning in total perplexity? another possibility still, maybe you have brought the theory of collective unconscious into a new stage of development, of which i am too slow to fathom?