內地大肚婆在港生子問題

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今日上毛小姐課, 大部分時間都在討論內地大肚婆在港生子問題, 這個問題已經實在太爛了, 根本就不是大問題, 某程度上誇大了事實的全部, 以及, 我個人覺得, 是觸及了某些人的神經, 才會放得這麼大. 其實在港產子的大肚婆大致可以分為三類, 有一類是父母均非港人, 但有錢, 來港產子只是拿居港權, 孩子出世後不會留港, 情形和以前香港人到外國一樣, 這類不是問題; 另一類是父是香港人, 老婆來港產子, 只是插隊, 讓兒子老婆可以快點到來, 由於父親是香港人, 就算孩子將來拿綜援, 老婆用香港產婦服務, 是權利一部分, 如果你硬要說這些人不好, 這是另一個問題; 最後一類就是父母均非香港人, 產子後擺明居馬是貪香港的福利, 這類才是問題所在, 走不走數, 是行政問題, 這些應該可以很易擺平, 問題是最後一類人究竟佔總來港產子人數多少呢, 是否真的那麼誇張, 還是無張放大? 整體來看, 你要堵截這些人來港, 沒有可能, 除非硬來, 否則一日不改法制的話一日都會繼續有人來香港. 說回頭, 第二類人為人垢病的地方, 就是他們都普遍是低收入家庭, 來港產子後人口質素都會下降云云, 但這正是香港的問題, 香港正步向高收入人士俱樂部, 低收入的人愈來愈受抹黑, 歧視, 而問題正正是香港是一個有入沒出的地方, 香港其實自成一體, 由於制度不同, 低收入的香港人鮮有會離港, 只有繼續留在香港死頂, 結果在環境轉型之後, 這班人都變了犧牲品, 而且, 為什麼我們 這麼介意 (究竟是什麼人最介意) 這班人 (原諒我在此為他們構成了一個團體) 會拿綜援? 香港不是一個強調香港故事, 階級浮動, 只要你肯努力, 就可以出人頭地的社會嗎? 幾廿年來我們不是以這種意識形態生活的嗎? 為什麼我們總認為他們或他們的下一代總會停留在低收入的類別? 是否以前的某類人成了現今香港的基礎核心後, 反過來鞏固了現時的社會實況. 還是有感現在的香港已不再是以前處處機遇的地方, 階級流動開始停滯, 香港人已不可再慷慨起來? 還是擔心這班人會拖累他們, 令他們百上加斤, 不再相信香港神話? 抑或是對某種人的厭惡, 甚至是對自身的其中一個成份 (祖上是移民來, 不純粹是香港人) 的強烈排斥 (胡說) ? 香港愈來愈變得某種人的意識形態作主, 尤其是看到這些人對現境的強烈焦慮, 以及對某些階層的人的恐懼情緒. 我同情這班人的境況, 但問題是, 這些人的思想現在好像主導了社會的論調, 有時甚至和某的階層的人有磨擦, 或許這就是深層次矛盾.

五十米深藍 1/30/2007

5 留言:

Zeke 說...

沒有安全感的人們，就會不斷尋找與自己身份不同之別人為假想對敵去排斥和抗衡（毛稱之為敵我矛盾），以否定他人與自身之差異為其自保之道。然而，因著眾人之間本來就是不能盡相同的，這樣尋找假想對敵的過程就可是無了期，從而跌進倍感失去安全感的惡行循環，無止境地活在自作的恐懼中。

30/1/07 18:01
左冷禪 說...
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31/1/07 09:59
左冷禪 說...

With greatest respect, I am very surprised by what you wrote in your article saying “香港人已不可再慷慨起來?” and “香港愈來愈變得某種人的意識形態作主”. First of all can you please tell me why should I be generous to a groups of immigrants who are reluctant to work and come to Hong Kong cherishing the fantacy that their well-beings will be taken care of? What makes my/our generosity justifable before people who choose to fold their arms up and idle their lives in restaurant or elsewhere and don’t bother to find a job and earn their own living? Situation would be otherwise if they are handicapped or have totally lost their working capacity. I have little idea of how much income tax you have to pay throughout all these years or how benovelant you are but I truly believe anyone with a reasonable mind would agree better public interest could be served by spending their income tax, of which is derived from sweat and toil, on social infrastructure, education etc than feeding those good for nothing men of sloth. Nobody points a gun at their heads and asks them to marry women in mainland as one will not die of being a bachelor. At the time when these gentlemen put their signatures on the marriage certificates, they should anticipate separation with the loved ones is inevitable. Nor does anyone ask them to give birth to offsprings as neither of them are pedigree dogs or horses with prize-winning ancestry. So when it is on their own initiative to have children, they are not obliged to rely on you or me to pay their expenses out of our tax money. Even if you think Hong Kong is a place with abundant wealth, they are not entitled to look upon us for endless financial support. If they are orphans or widows with several children who have no means to earn their bread and butter, social welfare support of course should never be withheld as a miser would do in a situation as such. But for those who deliberately choose not to work and expecting bread be gifted by some merciful hearts, then Hong Kong definitely is and should not portray itself as their wonderland where milk and honey is flowing everywhere.

Perhaps you may think I am just another victim of individualism or class consciousness, but honestly I am only an advocate of fairness. Right/welfare should only be rendered if there is an obligation borne on a person. In the West, the working population is heavily taxed, they therefore entirely deserve all the social welfare available for them and their family. But for those who only take but never give, they are no better than locusts and deserve nothing but pesticides.

In relation to the inflows of mainland preguant women, the problem could only be cubbed by amending the legislation of Hong Kong. Has our immigration law been amended to the effect that only babies with Hong Kong citizens parenthood, could obtain the right of abode in Hong Kong, I daresay the number of mainland pregnaunt ladies coming to Hong Kong would drop in a forenight. Hong Kong is never, nor will be a神話. Hong Kong is only a place where there are opportunities for those who would bother to give a try.

Personally I wish to give an applause to the Indians and Napelese who support their families by working as a security guard at a building or workman on the construction site.

Lastly, I think it is utterly unfair to compare the present immigrants which Hong Kong is trying to close the gate to with those immigrants in the late 1940s, 50s and 60s. Those came in the 50s and 60s were either skilled or had brought along with them capital. Hong Kong’s today success should largely be attributed to their labour and investment, without which a barren rock could never turn into an international metropolis.

31/1/07 10:07
倉海君 說...

Believe me, one can be miraculously generous at others' expense.

31/1/07 11:02
道士 說...

jacky: This is the current rate of income tax in Canada. (且以BC 省為例)當你揾$10,000港紙一個月﹐你一年就約繳$25,000為薪俸稅﹐未計其他。如過月薪$30,000﹐一年約繳$87,600。大蓋約20%左右。你就算買支牙刷﹐都包含約14%稅在內。無錯﹐香港在比較下相對來說稅項就輕得多﹐不過既然交了稅﹐自然希望稅款能回餽社會﹐唔係養廢柴。

FEDERAL INCOME TAX
15.25% on the first $36,378 of taxable income, plus 22% on the next $36,378 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income between $36,378 and $72,756), plus
26% on the next $45,529 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income between $72,756 and $118,285), plus 29% of taxable income over $118,285.

NOT INCLUDING the Provincial / Territorial tax rates which varies from a minimal of 4% (under $36,378) in nunavut, to 18.02% (above $59,180) in newfoundland.
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There's also EXCISE TAX on petroleum products, automobile. also GST/PST (聯幫政府銷售稅/省份銷售稅) applies to all non daily products.

1/2/07 09:23
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